October 4th, 2013
10:59 AM ET

Questions After Police Shoot Driver After Car Chase Through Capitol

Many questions still linger after a woman leading police on a wild car chase through the streets of Washington is shot and killed.

The woman, identified as 34-year-old Miriam Carey, rammed her black Infiniti sedan into a security barrier and backed into a Secret Service officer about a block away from the White House last week.

“After police asked her to get out of her car, she drove away, leading them to a high-speed chase down Pennsylvania avenue—all the way to the east side of the Capitol, Secret Service on her tail,” CNN’s Joe Johns reports. (WATCH TOP VIDEO)

Johns says, “Just moments later, her car crashed outside the Hart Senate Office Building. Perceiving a threat, police opened fire.”

Two officers were injured in the melee, and are now recovering.

Meanwhile, no weapons were found inside the Infiniti.

But in the backseat, an officer pulled a one-year-old girl believed to be Kerry’s daughter from the car and took her to a hospital. She is now in good condition and in protective custody.

Still the question remains, what drove Carey to begin this chase?

Her boyfriend, cooperating with federal law enforcement, was questioned last night and provides clues.

According to a law enforcement source, Carey's boyfriend contacted police about ten months ago, in Stamford, Connecticut, because he was worried about his baby daughter who was just four months old at the time.

“The boyfriend apparently told police Carey was acting delusional, that she was claiming that President Obama had placed her city of Stamford under lock down and that her home was under electronic surveillance,” CNN’s Deb Feyerick reports.

On Monday's "New Day" Miriam Carey's sisters, Valarie Carey and Amy Carey-Jones. and their attorney Eric Sanders, spoke with Anchor Kate Bolduan.

The family says they believe the police used too much force and that Miriam seemed fine the last time they saw her.

Amy Carey-Jones says, "She was under treatment and she had her life challenges but that doesn't mean that she still wasn't a person."

Valerie Carey, a former police officer, says "The questions isn’t really why was she in Washington, the question is why was she killed in Washington. And all I can see when I look at that video is my sister is afraid and she’s frightened and she’s trying to get out of there. She’s confused, she doesn’t know which way to go.”

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  1. Marie Claire

    The family has their minds made up, and with their attorney, they're setting up their case (thus the beginning of tears because they have ?lost the companionship of their sister?). Whatever the investigation yields won't satisfy them. It amazes me that Miriam isn't responsible for anything, and her boyfriend is just wrong about delusions, etc.

    I am curious to see what the investigation shows. What was she doing in DC acting like that?? Attempted murder (daughter)-suicide by cop? Did she have it in for the president? Did someone cut her off and she flipped out?

    I don't think the sisters were aware of the extent of their sister's mental problems. It's a sad case, for sure.

    October 7, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Reply
  2. Marie Claire

    Where is this video supposedly aired Monday morning of the sisters being interviewed? It's not above – after "See full interview" the space is empty. Link anyone?

    October 7, 2013 at 2:52 pm | Reply
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      October 7, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Reply
      • Marie Claire

        Thanks. Couldn't see the video box on, iPad, so switched to PC and watched it.

        October 7, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
  3. Barbara Romio

    I believe that Miriam Carey, in her confused mind, made a very poor choice by not stopping when the police wanted her to stop her car, she put her baby daughter's life in jepardy. The Carey's want money/sue the police dept., are you kidding me. No way in this world, when the police let it be known that they want you to stop, STOP !

    October 7, 2013 at 11:19 am | Reply
  4. Emmy

    As a former detention center employee, the spouse of a law enforcement officer, and as someone who works with law enforcement agencies on a regular basis, I've listened to several conversations about the appropriateness of deadly force. The qualifications they are told to look for are: ability. opportunity, and jeopardy; if those are met, then they have to "stop the threat." To put it another way they must have the practical ability to cause you harm (ability), can they harm you RIGHT THEN and RIGHT THERE (opportunity), and as a "reasonable, prudent person," you believe you are in imminent danger (jeopardy). If those conditions are met, they have to take action to stop whatever threat is present.

    To people stating that the woman was "unarmed," she was not. Her car was a 2,000 pound weapon that she propelled to injure two officers; she ran into one officer's body directly and rammed another officer's car hard enough to make the airbags deploy. Both were hospitalized. She demonstrated the ability to do harm, she had the opportunity to harm other people with her weapon (vehicle), not just law enforcement (she was in close enough proximity to do them harm, so RIGHT THEN and RIGHT THERE she was a threat), and she placed officers in jeopardy when she refused to yield to their commands and continued using her car to ram other objects in her path.

    Having laid all that out, there are two things: one, it is still a tragedy because I can't imagine anyone, law enforcement or not, would want to cause the death of a mother with her child. Two, there is a discussion that is STILL not happening; we are arguing about law enforcement and gun control, but we're missing a big piece. The officers were put in a difficult situation and they reacted according to their training. The woman they killed (as it is becoming more apparent) was mentally ill and (reportedly) struggling with postpartum depression, which makes this all the more sickening. People are angry at law enforcement for a "senseless killing," when in reality it seems that this woman, who needed mental health help and support, was not able to get the care she needed. It's a possibility that had she been provided with the care she needed, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    Newtown, CN, the Naval Yard shooting in D.C., the Aurora, CO shooting – many of these mass murders were perpetrated by people who had been had a lack of competent medical care for their mental health issues and more frequently there are reports on the news of a "mentally ill person" causing some sort of disturbance (calling in threats, acting out, etc.) The state in which I reside has eviscerated the MH system, leaving only jails and prisons to deal with these people. They get treatment while incarcerated, get better, are released, and have no resources for follow-up. Without medical attention and their medication, they regress, have a "criminal" episode of some sort (usually a disturbance or trespassing charge, sometimes something violent), and are incarcerated again. It is a vicious system that has a high human toll, not to mention it's ineffective and drains money and other resources.

    We can (and should) still talk about gun control issues and how we address violence in our country, but people need to wake up and stop ignoring that there is a huge lapse/gap/disparity/gag/block (however you want to put it) on the issues of mental health and its treatment. Until that happens, we'll be stuck in this loop of violence and debates.

    October 7, 2013 at 10:20 am | Reply
  5. James

    The rules of engagement were never followed. The cops were hyped and weapons drawn with out any percieved threat other than a vehicle attempting to enter a barricaded gate. An armored vehicle could not enter those gates. They could have easily apprehended her. She had no weapon it did not call for deadly force. The officers put many bystanders at risk. It resembles the same manner of Ruby ridge or Wako shoot first ask later. How is it military in a war zone cant just shoot who they please because they think they are in danger. They would be serving time in jail. It would not surprise me if the parents brought civil suit to the officers who fired at the vehicle that killed thier daughter. How can anyone say they did there job well when the initial confrontation did not detect she was dilusional and could not see there was a child in the car?

    October 7, 2013 at 9:16 am | Reply
  6. SCARY CRACKER

    where was her family during the time she was suffering for depression?

    October 7, 2013 at 9:00 am | Reply
  7. old school

    Does not surprise me the spin her family's lawyer on the police's reaction to protect citizens. A car is a weapon. Many question ensue, the family certainly didn't know their sister well (her prescribed psychotropic meds and treatment). They are criticising the source of their sister's psychotic behavior ( her boyfriend, father of their child, stating she thought Obama was stalking her). When asked about their possibly wanting to get custody of their niece, that was not of their concern for now, Hhmn? They are leaving the child with the thought of unreliable father? This smells of avarice to me, not of concern, especially if they have their niece to consider.

    October 7, 2013 at 8:58 am | Reply
  8. Are you serious?

    If she was white? Are you serious right now? Why Why WHY does EVERYTHING have to become about RACE? I was in bldg 197 on 9/16, my office is on the fourth floor...I watched as my co-workers tried to hide from the BLACK MAN who thought it "cool" to kill 12 innocent people becasue of "mental issues", I WAS SHOT AT by the BLACK MAN- but never, EVER, did I hear ONE person from my building even mention or pull the RACE card. Get a damn life people...BLACK, WHITE, PURPLE, BLUE- WHat the hell difference does it make? The damage is done. in the grand scheme of things, does the color of the persons skin REALLY matter? or is it the loss of innocent lives that is the REAL bottom line....

    October 7, 2013 at 8:54 am | Reply
  9. carlos

    It's funny how all of these ppl are on here bashing the secret service and capitol police. How about you try doing a job that could potentially put your life in danger and not be compensated for it for starters!!! Secondly, if you have never been in the military or any type of LEO position, keep your comments to yourselves. She was at a checkpoint at the white house and tried to tried to get through!!!! Thats a crime in itself, at that moment in time you could never know if she had a bomb or any other type of destructive device in the car. Secondly she might not have been armed with a gun, but she was using her vehicle as a weapon, especially when she rammed her car into the capitol police vehicle. She put herself, her daughter, and everyone else in danger when she sped off while officers had their weapons drawn on her. Speeding driving her car recklessly was a dangerous weapon. to all the ppl with neg comments, try walking in a cop shoes for one day....

    October 7, 2013 at 8:45 am | Reply
  10. coltranefan

    Did nothing wrong? Why don't you idiots that think this woman did nothing wrong, sign up, go through the training and become an officer. An officer gets a moment to make a decision to protect others and themselves. You morons get a lifetime to analyze and make your own opinions. I bet if you were staring at a crazed woman coming at you in a car, you may think differently.

    October 7, 2013 at 8:27 am | Reply
  11. Mike

    No offense but if you go on a driving rampage in DC they don't have time to ask questions or get your get out of jail crazy card. You get shot –end of story. The Secret Service and the Capital police had a nut driving around like a maniac; if her family were so concerned why did they let this loon walk around let alone drive around with a baby. IF they could not supervise or control her they should have had her committed. Driving a car into barriers and running over cops in DC is different than other places. DC security is tight it has to be and if you are in the "protective bubble" behaving with possible deadly actions then deadly force is totally appropriate.

    October 7, 2013 at 8:10 am | Reply
  12. Dontae

    This incident raises the question for me as to why not disable the car instead of using deadly force? Clearly that could have been an option at the very beginning. I find disgust with the fact that the law enforcement individuals are being hailed as "heroes" when they contributed to the danger of the child in the vehicle as well. I think a little more restraint from using deadly force could've been used in this incident. Still not sure as to why both poilce cars followed the car around the circle instead of just blocking it off as she came back around. Alot of unanswered questions, which hopefully will be answered with the investigation.

    October 7, 2013 at 8:05 am | Reply
  13. the dude

    Seems quite of bit of folks on here are specialists in the use of force. Armchair attourneys. Im to assume none of you were there, in the moment, like these officers were? I am also going to assume that none of you have ever trained in use of force scenarios. I bet these officers have. I am also willing to bet the last thing they ever wanted to do is take a human life. Yes, spike strips are ideal. if you are on highway, not a large city block where a vehicle doesnt have to follow just one path. Yes this unfortunate, but we all know what opinions are like.

    October 7, 2013 at 8:04 am | Reply
  14. Jason

    We have forgotten that we are still at war and have been since 9/11. Deadly force is part of war. Car bombs and terrorists go together and this black Infinity was perceived as a threat. Yes, the cops were right in protecting us.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:59 am | Reply
  15. BOB

    You are wasting internet space on this story and these people.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:57 am | Reply
  16. Bev

    Certainly the situation is sad and there a lot of unanswered questions. Only the Lord knows exactly what happened and why. I wish there was some way her death could have been prevented. The country is acting on fear for this and fear for that....and the first instinct is to shootl. When they had her surrounded and the video shows the police at the car before she took off again, didn't they see the child in the back?

    October 7, 2013 at 7:55 am | Reply
  17. E.R.

    A tragedy all the way around. People who knew her, knew she was having mental problems. Some tried to help. Some did not. She was allowed to retain custody of her child, and put the baby in the car, drove almost 300 miles... She rammed barricades at the White House. She ran over two law enforcement officers. All the police officers who chased her knew... was that there was imminent danger to everyone in the area. She had refused a lawful order to get out of her car. Given the circumstances, what else could they have done?. Given the circumstances, what else could people who knew her, and knew about her problems, have done. There are no good answers here.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:51 am | Reply
  18. Anne

    The sad thing is that her mental health needs went neglected. She had postpartum psychosis and a complete break with reality. Her boyfriend did try to get her help. Before you sit and judge, maybe someone you love will have it one day, or someone you love will be affected by it. Until people wake up, sorry folks....this problem is not going away. Your comments make me sick. They are ignorant.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:49 am | Reply
  19. Citizen Caine

    I am sick of hearing about cops shooting unarmed people simply because "they thought...", maybe they should stop thinkng. Honestly, was there any clear and present danger to anybody for them to use deadly force? They (law enforcement) talk so much about training, but yet, when it comes to "the nitty grtty", all the training goes out the window and it is simply the "I have the power" attitude of the He-Men and Sheras that take over... just saying...

    October 7, 2013 at 7:28 am | Reply
    • uncommon wisdom

      People need to stop second guessing law enforcement from the comfort and security of their homes. The woman injured two cops and refused to stop her vehicle. These policeman are not clairvoyant. How were they supposed to know this woman was "only" mentally unbalanced and not a terrorist? On top of that, this incident happened only a week after the Navy Yard rampage. Try to look at both sides for a change. Stop your knee-jerk reaction of dumping on the people who help protect us. Not all are to be judged by the few who are corrupt.

      October 7, 2013 at 8:27 am | Reply
      • old school

        Amen to that!

        October 7, 2013 at 9:03 am |
  20. O'Hara

    You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty...... Mahatma Gandhi.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:26 am | Reply
  21. Anonymous

    The fact remains that other, non lethal options were open to the Secret Service and the Capitol Police. They chose not to use them. That they did not, ought to be cause for concern. But we live in a time of fear - fear of the government, and its unbridled power. And so, this needless death will, like so many others, be swept away and forgotten.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:09 am | Reply
    • Mike

      she also had options and she chose to drive a car in an unsafe manner who knows what she had or did not have the cops acted proper in this situation.

      October 7, 2013 at 8:15 am | Reply
  22. Lin

    I'm confused. Why is the baby in protective custody when the boyfriend (presumed father) and Aunts are clearly in the picture?

    October 7, 2013 at 6:43 am | Reply
  23. Jack Rivera

    Obama drove this lady insane just like he is driving the rest of us insane.

    October 7, 2013 at 6:33 am | Reply
    • Jason

      Jack – You're a fool and a bigot. This isn't the 1950's anymore. Stay under your rock with the rest of the Tea Party.

      October 7, 2013 at 7:55 am | Reply
    • Mike

      she was probably going for Boehner who is the real problem not the president

      October 7, 2013 at 8:11 am | Reply
    • P J Howard

      Come on Jack do you really believe that or are you really crazy yourself. What is wrong with people like you always blaming Obama. Why don't you try walking in his shoes for one day...oh I forgot they don't let crazy people or bigots hold office. Why don't you put the blame were it really should be...ON THE TEA PARTY. WAKE UP JAKE AND JOIN OUR CENTURY. THAT WOMAN DIED BECAUSE THE CAPITOL POLICE FAILED HER.. THEY PANICKED AND MADE A MISTAKE AND THEY ARE BEING PRAISED FOR THIS. Really Jack

      October 7, 2013 at 9:24 am | Reply
  24. Miss Kitty

    Where in the U.S. is it OK to ram your car into anybody, much less a cop? How did an unemployed dental hygienist afford to drive an Infiniti, anyway? She must have been getting some help from somewhere - too bad she didn't appreciate it more. She should have been home taking care of her child or out looking for another job.

    October 7, 2013 at 6:31 am | Reply
    • Citizen Caine

      Why are you so concerned about how she managed to do this or do that? A human being lost its life, and you're concerned abou her personal life? As Charlie Brown would say: "Good grief!"

      October 7, 2013 at 7:32 am | Reply
    • Shelley

      What she did was wrong, but she was mentally ill at the time. Women sometime go through manic depression and post partum depression after pregnancy because of the hormone fluctuations. Did she deserve to be shot? I don't think so. They should have shot out her tires and then assessed the situation. If the main threat (the car) was under control, then they should have looked for a secondary threat (a gun, knife) – they could have subdued her.

      October 7, 2013 at 8:41 am | Reply
  25. Miss Kitty

    Ramming your car into a cop is not considered the right thing to do anywhere in the U.S, or anywhere in the world, for that matter. How did an unemployed dental hygienist afford to drive an Infiniti, anyway? She must have been getting a lot of help from somewhere or she wouldn't have had the money to even act in the irrational manner that she did.

    October 7, 2013 at 6:25 am | Reply
    • Ray

      She never "rammed" any security barriers. The video shows her drive upon them as if thinking she could fit between them. Realizing she couldn't (surrounded by officers) she attempted to flew once more. It was then and there that the officers trained to anaylze a situation did not see a the child inspit of surrounding the vehicle before it slipped away, leading them to shoot at the women. Use of forces was necessary considering the potential for bodily harm however, the gun happy police could have ended this differently. Dont believe every line you read in the paper.

      October 7, 2013 at 7:33 am | Reply
    • Miss Kitty's Mother

      Miss Kitty- You don't know what you're talking about. You're just running your mouth, probably drunk on the computer. You're making comments that would normally land you in court for slander. I suggest you put the drink down and let the professionals figure out what's going on... because you certainly aren't in any position to that.

      October 7, 2013 at 7:38 am | Reply
    • Hiruu@yahoo.com

      How much does a Denal Hygenist make in Conn...also, how much is a used Infitiniti? There was certianly something wrong with this woman, fo this behavior, but WTF kind of question are these for you to be asking?!?!

      October 7, 2013 at 8:55 am | Reply
  26. spencer

    "Perceiving a threat, police opened fire.” I hope they investigate into this shooting. The woman clearly was not armed, and high speed chases like this happen all the time without the use of deadly force. They could have easily killed the child in the back seat.

    October 7, 2013 at 6:11 am | Reply
    • JF

      I agree. What happened to using spike strips. If she were white the entire media would be howling about one of them getting shot without cause.

      October 7, 2013 at 7:28 am | Reply
  27. liam

    this woman did nothing wrong. Her partner says she was disillusion. The gun happy Cops shot her. They will be hailed as heros.

    October 4, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Reply
    • mark

      Did nothing wrong ? She put the life of her own kid in tremendous danger, failing to stop when guns are pointing in your face is a crime to your self, never minde others. Delusional or not she did a lot wrong, so you should engage your brain before putting your mouth in gear.

      October 7, 2013 at 6:31 am | Reply
      • Citizen Caine

        OK... she put HER life and HER child's life in danger... does this justify shooting at her AND HER BABY some thirty shots? Maybe you should crawl under the rock you came out of...

        October 7, 2013 at 7:36 am |
      • pcelve44

        Mark...Why wouldn't the Police shoot the tires? If they are trained/intelligent higher thinking Policemen. And, the weapon being yeild against you is a car in which you are less than a few feet away. Why not shoot the tires to disarm the assailant. But, no...nowadays the Police are trained to shoot to KILL! Everything they are afraid of...fear is why she is dead! And, the sad part is that too many like you tend to judge whos life is valuable and whos isn't with ignorancy! this makes you and others such as Ms. Kitty! Idiots, for no other reason but lack knowledge...in my book, mean you will perish away oneday. And, your lives will even less than what this young womans life mean to you NOW! peace&love,

        October 7, 2013 at 8:54 am |
    • Bill

      What planet are you living on??? You certainly did not watch the video of what happened. Everyone in the area was in immediate danger. Why didn't you jump out in front of the car and stop it?

      October 7, 2013 at 6:52 am | Reply
      • Citizen Caine

        Bill... what about the danger of the "stray bullits"? Or do you think the bullit is just going to drop to the ground becaus it missed the intended target! Stop living in LaLaLand... more danger was created by the shots...

        October 7, 2013 at 7:43 am |
    • Mike

      yes she was just an innocent delusional woman driving around like a maniac with a baby in her car–guess we would erect her a statue if she had driven to a lake and killed her baby; it is sad but she got what she deserved.

      October 7, 2013 at 8:13 am | Reply

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